From: Eystein Jansen <eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no>
To: imprint-ssc@bjerknes.uib.no
Subject: RE:
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:17:44 +0100
Cc: mschulz@palmod.uni-bremen.de, stocker@climate.unibe.ch

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Hi, just for clarification as we continue on the 
St.2 proposal (you´ll get the mailing tomrrow 
with documents, scheduling etc. as planned).
The merger of ICON into Imprint was discussed 
several times in the preparatory phase of Imprint 
(before name was decided) in meetings we had in 
London early last year. However a number of the 
present WP leaders did not take part in these 
early deliberations, hence this is the reason for 
the  lack of a collective memory of the 
background.
Reasons for including it:
1. Good science,on a topic of high relevance 
(abrupt climate change) focussed and with 
emphasis on aspects dealing with preedictability 
of such changes rather than mapping out their 
distribution and impact (as has been done before).
3. Important to avoid competing proposals within 
urope to avoid the paleo-community being 
marginalised.

Cheers,
Eystein


At 09:18 +0000 31-01-05, Tett, Simon wrote:
>Hi Rainer,
>	Until our recent meeting in London I was 
>not aware of the history and do not recall any 
>discussion about blending ICON into the project. 
>I expect that is a decision Eystein made. 
>However, I am very glad that the work is part of 
>the IP. I think it will allow much better 
>science to be done.
>
>Simon
>
>Dr Simon Tett  Managing Scientist, Data development and applications.
>Met Office       Hadley Centre (Reading Unit)
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rainer.zahn@icrea.es [mailto:rainer.zahn@icrea.es]
>Sent: 31 January 2005 08:45
>To: imprint-ssc@bjerknes.uib.no; 
>eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no; 
>oyvind.paasche@geo.uib.no; Erick.Larson@fa.uib.no
>Cc: mschulz@palmod.uni-bremen.de; stocker@climate.unibe.ch
>Subject:
>
>
>Simon,
>
>I couldn't agree more on the issue of having the science focussed in
>Imprint. I am surprised though that the background behind having WP3 and
>Task 4.6 in Imprint does not appear to be common knowledge within Imprint.
>Thought the merger has been discussed and agreed upon by the consortium.
>
>We will move forward with our WP and see that we get the Holocene part in
>WP3/4.6 strengthened so as to make fit with the timescales of the rest of
>the planned work.
>
>As a note on the side, you may have noted in the comments of the independent
>assessor that Eystein contracted in for advice that he mentions WP3
>specifically for its clarity and relevance. While I tend to agree I am also
>aware that he probably is not the specialist to assess the issue of
>relevance and significance. Yet, in the WP3 description we are asking a set
>of clear-cut questions, which to me doesn't seem the case for other WPs that
>leave an unforturnate impression of confusion.  Beyond the needed scientific
>focus mentioned on several occasions in London and your email, clarity is an
>issue that does not seem to be equally distributed throughout the proposal.
>So as much as I do sympathise with the discussion about the sense or
>non-sense of have WP3 in Imprint, I am convinced to my heart that we need to
>improve profoundly on the quality of our WP descriptions if Imprint is to
>stand a chance of being considered for funding.
>
>Cheers,   Rainer
>
>   Rainer Zahn, Professor de Recerca
>   Institució Catalana de Recerca i Estudis Avançats, ICREA
>i Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona
>   Institut de Ciencia i Tecnologia Ambientals
>   Edifici Cn - Campus UAB
>   E-08193 Bellaterra (Cerdanyola), Spain
>
>   Phone: +34 - 93 581 4219
>     Fax: +34 - 93 581 3331
>   email: rainer.zahn@icrea.es, rainer.zahn@uab.es


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