From: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
To: Tim Osborn <t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: paper in this Friday's Science
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:07:02 -0500
Reply-to: mann@psu.edu
Cc: k.briffa@uea.ac.uk

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Guys,

A final revised version attached. I'm expecting the embargo to lift at 
midnight east coast U.S., but let me know if you hear otherwise. I will 
make sure the science website has posted the paper before posting myself...

mike

Tim Osborn wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> thanks for putting this together, Mike.  It is a nice summary plus 
> drawing out of the important strands etc.  I especially like "might be 
> likened in shape to a certain implement used in a popular North 
> American winter sport" - Keith thinks you must mean a "ski"?
>
> The only negative thing I have to say is that you get in a couple of 
> "digs" at the sceptics which might unnecessarily rankle readers. e.g. 
> *astronomers* Soon and Baliunas; *unbridled* cherry picking.  Still, 
> it's your name that's attached to this piece, so it's up to you to dig 
> if you want.
>
> Cheers and thanks again
>
> Tim
>
> At 13:42 09/02/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Maybe Science can still fix (at least, the online version?). I 
>> wouldn't lose sleep over this though. As typos go, its relatively minor.
>>
>> I must confess that I scavanged a figure off your page proofs. As the 
>> piece won't go online until after the article goes up on Science's 
>> website, shouldn't matter what the source was though...
>>
>> I've attached the piece in word format. Hyperlinks are still there, 
>> but not clickable in word format. I've already given it a good 
>> go-over w/ Gavin, Stefan, and William Connelley (our internal "peer 
>> review" process at RC), so I think its in pretty good shape. Let me 
>> know if any comments...
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Tim Osborn wrote:
>>
>>> Bugger.  You read and re-read the manuscript and the proofs and 
>>> *still* you miss things!  Yes, it should be 1856.  Thanks for 
>>> spotting this.
>>>
>>> I didn't reply yet about RealClimate because I thought Keith or I 
>>> would have to prepare something and wasn't sure if we'd have time 
>>> (IPCC deadlines!), but as you've done the work instead, that's great 
>>> - though we'd like to see it beforehand if possible.  Did you 
>>> need/want a copy of a figure or have you got hold of one from 
>>> Science/journalist?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> At 19:53 08/02/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tim/Keith,
>>>>
>>>> I've worked up an article for RC to go online when the embargo is 
>>>> lifted. Will send later when finalized. One issue came up in an 
>>>> interview w/ a writer at Science, and I didn't know the answer. Is 
>>>> the shorter reference period you mention in caption of fig 3 really 
>>>> 1865, or is that a typo (i.e., supposed to be 1856). I couldn't 
>>>> think of a reason for why the latter date would be used, and 
>>>> guessed that "65" just got transposed accidentally? Please let me 
>>>> know if you can what the answer is. Its a minor point, but nice to 
>>>> get things right if possible...
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Michael E. Mann
>>>> Associate Professor
>>>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)
>>>>
>>>> Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
>>>> 503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
>>>> The Pennsylvania State University      email:  
>>>> <mailto:mann@psu.edu>mann@psu.edu
>>>> University Park, PA 16802-5013
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm>http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm 
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Timothy J Osborn
>>> Climatic Research Unit
>>> School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
>>> Norwich  NR4 7TJ, UK
>>>
>>> e-mail:   <mailto:t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>t.osborn@uea.ac.uk
>>> phone:    +44 1603 592089
>>> fax:      +44 1603 507784
>>> web:      
>>> <http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/>http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/
>>> sunclock: 
>>> <http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm>http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael E. Mann
>> Associate Professor
>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)
>>
>> Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
>> 503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
>> The Pennsylvania State University      email:  
>> <mailto:mann@psu.edu>mann@psu.edu
>> University Park, PA 16802-5013
>>
>> <http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm>http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm 
>>
>>
>
> Dr Timothy J Osborn
> Climatic Research Unit
> School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
> Norwich  NR4 7TJ, UK
>
> e-mail:   t.osborn@uea.ac.uk
> phone:    +44 1603 592089
> fax:      +44 1603 507784
> web:      http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/
> sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm
>


-- 
Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University      email:  mann@psu.edu
University Park, PA 16802-5013

http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm



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