From: Michael Mann <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
To: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: A couple of things
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:47:02 -0400
Reply-to: mann@psu.edu
Cc: Gavin Schmidt <gschmidt@giss.nasa.gov>

   Hi Phil,
   Seems to me that CRU should charge him a fee for the service. He shouldn't be under the
   assumption that he has the right to demand reports be scanned in for him on a whim. CRU
   should require reasonable monetary compensation for the labor, effort (and postage!).
   It this were a colleague acting in good faith, I'd say do it at no cost.  But of, course,
   he's not. He's not interested in the truth here, he's just looking for another way to try
   to undermine confidence in our science.
   Henry's review looks helpful and easy to deal w/.  Will be interesting to see the other
   reviews. I guess you're going to get your moneys' worth out of your scanner,
   mike
   Phil Jones wrote:

      Gavin, Mike,

         1. This email came to CRU last night.
        From: Steve McIntyre [[1] mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca]
     Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:09 PM
     To: [2]alan.ovenden@uea.ac.uk
     Subject: Farmer et al 1989
     Dear Sir, Can you please send me a pdf of the Farmer et al 1989, cited in Folland
     andPArker 1995, which, in turn is cited in the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report. Thanks,
     Steve McIntyre
     Farmer, G., Wigley, T. M. L., Jones, P. D. and Salmon, M., 1989 'Documenting and
     explaining recent global-mean temperature changes'. Climatic Research Unit, Norwich,
     Final Report to NERC, UK, Contract GR3/6565 (unpublished)
       CRU has just the one copy of this!  We've just got a new scanner for a project, so
     someone here
      is going to try this out - and scan the ~150pp. I'm doing this as this is one of the
     project
      reports that I wished I'd written up. It's got all the bucket equations, assessments of
      the accuracy of the various estimates for the parameters that have to be made. It also
      includes discussion of the shapes (seasonal cycles) of the residual seasonal cycles you
      get from different types of buckets prior to WW2 relative to intakes. It also includes
     a factor
      they haven't considered at all yet - ship speed and its changes over time. This turns
     out
      to important. It has a lot more than Folland and Parker (1995). Doubt it will shut them
     up for
      long - but it will justify your faith in those doing the SST work that we have
     considered everything
      we could think of. We'll also put it up on our web site at the same time.
         2. Reviews of the Holocene epic.
      Got this today - so a journal still working by post!  Here is Henry's review.
      Possibly the other two might involve hand-written comments on hard copies.
      Will get these scanned when they arrive and send around if necessary.
      Dear Phil
     I have today posted two referees' reports to you and the verdict of
     accepted subject to taking account of referees' comments.  These two
     reports do not include the report of Henry Diaz which has just been sent
     to you directly.  Please take his comments into account too.
     John A Matthews
     Emeritus Professor of Physical Geography
     Editor, The Holocene

     Department of Geography
     School of the Environment and Society
     University of Wales Swansea
     Singleton Park
     SWANSEA   SA2 8PP

     Prof. Phil Jones
     Climatic Research Unit        Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
     School of Environmental Sciences    Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
     University of East Anglia
     Norwich                          Email    [3]p.jones@uea.ac.uk
     NR4 7TJ
     UK
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References

   1. mailto:stephen.mcintyre@utoronto.ca
   2. mailto:alan.ovenden@uea.ac.uk
   3. mailto:p.jones@uea.ac.uk
   4. mailto:mann@psu.edu
   5. http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm

