From: "Michael E. Mann" <mann@meteo.psu.edu>
To: Tim Osborn <t.osborn@uea.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: followup
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:34:17 -0400
Reply-to: mann@psu.edu
Cc: Scott Rutherford <srutherford@rwu.edu>, Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>

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Tim, thanks a bunch. This all sounds very good. We're finalizing a 
pseudoproxy paper for JGR based on the various tests w/ the CSM 
simulation I showed in Wengen, and will send you a guys a copy once its 
finalized. A natural followup would be a similar analysis applying to 
the ECHO-G simulation, and we would enjoy collaborating w/ you and Keith 
on this. We were also thinking of doing some "mixed signal" analyses, 
where the pseudoproxies represent a combinatiiion of temp and precip 
(including limiting cases of pure temp and pure precip). This might be a 
natural way to incorporate the ECHO-G results. We'll let you know if we 
have any trouble w/ format, etc.

thanks again,

mike

Tim Osborn wrote:

> Hi Mike and Scott,
>
> below are details about accessing the ECHO-G data from the SO&P 
> web-archive.  There are time series plots of various variables and 
> regions that might be useful for a quick overview of what's going on, 
> plus the temperature fields (and fields for other variables) can be 
> accessed in netCDF format (hope that format is ok, if not I can make a 
> conversion for you but that won't be till next week).
>
> I'd like to add to Keith's reasons why we'd like to be involved in the 
> outcome of analysis of these data.  The extra reason is that we 
> (Keith/me) are free to use these data and thus by extension you can 
> too provided we collaborate.  Fidel Gonzalez-Rouco or GKSS aren't yet 
> ready to make them completely open access, preferring to consider each 
> 3rd party request and decide on that basis.  I did ask Eduardo Zorita 
> about making them available for pseudo-proxy challenge after the 
> Wengen meeting, but I haven't yet followed up to find out his 
> decision.  The bottom line is that they might well make them available 
> for you to do your own thing with, but if you are happy to collaborate 
> with us then you can definitely use them immediately.
>
> The data are available from here:
>
> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/projects/soap/data/model/echog.htm
>
> Near the bottom you will find the link to the password-protected model 
> data (this includes the time series plots too).  The login details for 
> this are:
>
> soapech
> od2004
>
> The 2m air temperature is 3rd in the list of variables.  'Erik' is the 
> simulation will all forcings, 'Enat' just has natural forcings through 
> to the present.  The easiest way to get all the monthly 2m air 
> temperature fields for Erik is to use 'wget'.  There is help for how 
> to use 'wget' if you aren't familiar.
>
> The site was designed to be fairly self explanatory; hope you find it 
> so.  If not, please just ask.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Tim
>
> At 18:30 05/09/2006, Michael E. Mann wrote:
>
>> sure thing Keith, thanks. and of course, we'll keep you fully in the 
>> loop on our findings. I'm copying to Scott, as he's the one who will 
>> probably obtain the data from Tim. Thanks again, got to go teach now...
>>
>> mike
>>
>> Keith Briffa wrote:
>>
>>> mike
>>> simply missed the first and been away since second message - 
>>> forwarding to Tim to arrange access to these data ( I am assuming 
>>> Hans will not mind but best not say anything yet ) we wish to be 
>>> involved in this follow up please as it will be a SOAP product and 
>>> Tim (especially) and I did stuff to get these data produced and in a 
>>> form for dissemination. I am rushing now to Austria for a week .
>>> cheers
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> At 13:51 28/08/2006, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Keith, I didn't receive a response to my previous inquiry so I'm 
>>>> resending. Also copying to Phil in case you haven't been reading 
>>>> email for some reason.
>>>>
>>>> We would like to run our RegEM analysis through the ECHO-G 
>>>> simulation results. It appears that the results of that simulation 
>>>> have been widely disseminated to other groups, and yet they are not 
>>>> publically available to our knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> As per your previous suggestion, we would be grateful if we could 
>>>> acquire the surface temperature field for the simulation from you 
>>>> for some analyses we're doing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help,
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Michael E. Mann
>>>> Associate Professor
>>>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)
>>>>
>>>> Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
>>>> 503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
>>>> The Pennsylvania State University      email:  mann@psu.edu
>>>> University Park, PA 16802-5013
>>>>
>>>> http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Professor Keith Briffa,
>>> Climatic Research Unit
>>> University of East Anglia
>>> Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K.
>>>
>>> Phone: +44-1603-593909
>>> Fax: +44-1603-507784
>>>
>>> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Michael E. Mann
>> Associate Professor
>> Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)
>>
>> Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
>> 503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
>> The Pennsylvania State University      email:  mann@psu.edu
>> University Park, PA 16802-5013
>>
>> http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm
>>
>
> Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow
> Climatic Research Unit
> School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia
> Norwich  NR4 7TJ, UK
>
> e-mail:   t.osborn@uea.ac.uk
> phone:    +44 1603 592089
> fax:      +44 1603 507784
> web:      http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/
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>
> **Norwich -- City for Science:
> **Hosting the BA Festival 2-9 September 2006
>


-- 
Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology              Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building                    FAX:   (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University      email:  mann@psu.edu
University Park, PA 16802-5013

http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm


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