From: Jonathan Overpeck <jto@u.arizona.edu>
To: Henry Pollack <hpollack@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] SOD- template and FOD document
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:15:06 -0700
Cc: Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>, Eystein Jansen <eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no>

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Hi Henry (and Keith) - thanks for the quick 
effort! Regarding your comments, here's some 
feedback - it's good Keith beat me too it.

1. For Fig. 6.9b, there is a new version that 
resulted in lots of discussion at our last 
meeting. Keith can elaborate when he has time 
(we're pushing him real hard now for the SOD 
text), but we agree the caption has to be clear.

2. I'm worried about your discussion of southern 
hemisphere records, and trust Keith will get it 
right. Too bad your paper isn't in press too - it 
would be nice to include.

3. Hope you can help Keith with uncertainty 
prose. We are over length and hence we can't have 
more figures (e.g., with confidence intervals 
shown for all data). Please help him work it into 
the SOD text.

4. It is unclear if we'll have time for review of 
the whole chapter, but I'm still hoping Keith 
will send you all of Section 6.6 to look at. That 
assumes he has it done today or very soon at 
least. The more people that can look at text the 
better, but we also have to get the draft done - 
it can then be reviewed, and we will make sure 
CAs get to review in a more timely fashion this 
time.

Thanks again, Peck

>Hi Peck, Eystein and Keith,
>
>Attached in Borehole SOD.doc is a 'rewrite' of the borehole stuff.  You
>will recognize the 'rewrite', as it still addresses everything in
>the FOD draft sent to me, with much the same language. It is, however,
>an improvement in
>structure, and has a more balanced discussion. Keith, if you want more
>insight into why I
>have presented the material this way, I'll be happy to elaborate.
>
>The rewrite occupies lines 32-57 of page 6-30 SOD and lines 1-12 of page 6-31.
>
>Also attached is the full SOD template with the 'rewrite' and
>references inserted. It is not clear from your instructions that you
>wanted this to be done, but now you have it if you want it.
>
>Also attached are my replies to the reviewers of the FOD.
>
>I am sending everything today (Sunday), so everyone will get it as
>early as possible.
>
>Some additional comments in areas outside the narrowly defined
>'borehole' section:
>
>In Figure 6.9b, I recommend removing the instrumental record prior to
>1860, because it
>apparently represents only four European stations. The figure is
>captioned to represent
>the entire northern hemisphere.
>
>In section 6.6.2 Southern Hemisphere Temperature Variability page 6-32,
>lines 56-57: The
>two geothermal reconstructions shown, for southern Africa and
>Australia, do NOT indicate
>unusually warm conditions prevailing in the 20th century. Both
>reconstructions miss the
>rapid warming in the last two decades of the 20th century because many
>of the boreholes
>were logged prior to that excursion. The two reconstructions do match
>well the pre-1980
>SAT trends. I discuss this in a paper now in review by J. Quaternary
>Sci., titled "Five
>centuries of climate change in Australia: the view from underground."
>The southern
>hemisphere is NOT discussed in Pollack and Smerdon (2004), which you
>have cited there.
>
>If you will find it helpful, I can scan the entire chapter and provide
>comments, but
>perhaps that could wait until you have passed the immediate deadline in
>front of you.
>
>Cheers,
>Henry
>
>
>  ___    ___    Henry N. Pollack
>[   \  /   ]   Professor of Geophysics
>  |   \/   |    Department of Geological Sciences
>  |MICHIGAN|    University of Michigan
>[___]\/[___]   Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A.
>
>  Phone: 734-763-0084   FAX: 734-763-4690
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>
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>Quoting Jonathan Overpeck <jto@u.arizona.edu>:
>
>>Hi Henry - yes, it's true, but that's why we all get things done. Thanks.
>>
>>We have a serious space problem with the chapter, and need to
>>generally reduce it's size. However, if you nee a couple more lines
>>to do it well, and to get the proper refs in there (there are
>>undoubtedly new ones?), you may do so. We can always cut later... (so
>>don't add more than just a few lines max).
>>
>>As soon as you're done, pls email to me, Eystein and Keith. The
>>sooner Keith can finish the complete section, the sooner we can all
>>look at it and edit.
>>
>>The NAS/NRC mtg is at a crappy time. I can't travel then since I'm
>>alone w/ the kids, but I've been discussing helping by phone if
>>possible. The problem is that March 3 (the day they really want my
>>input) is the deadline for the SOD. If it's anything like last time
>>(FOD), I won't have time but for a quick trip to the bathroom now and
>>then to recycle coffee. But, I'm glad to hear you're in the loop. I
>>might still be able to help, since we're trying to do this so it
>>isn't a madhouse at the very end.
>>
>>Best, peck
>>
>>>Hi Peck,
>>>
>>>Yes, I will be working weekends -- don't we always??
>>>
>>>Are you attending the NAS/NRC hearing on surface temperature
>>>reconstructions on March 2?
>>>
>>>I will take you up on the invitation to (re)write the 40 lines of the
>>>borehole section.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Henry
>>>  ___    ___    Henry N. Pollack
>>>[   \  /   ]   Professor of Geophysics
>>>  |   \/   |    Department of Geological Sciences
>>>  |MICHIGAN|    University of Michigan
>>>[___]\/[___]   Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1005, U.S.A.
>>>
>>>  Phone: 734-763-0084   FAX: 734-763-4690
>>>  e-mail: hpollack@umich.edu
>>>  URL:  www.geo.lsa.umich.edu/~hpollack/
>>>  URL:  www-personal.umich.edu/~hpollack/book.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Quoting Jonathan Overpeck <jto@u.arizona.edu>:
>>>
>>>>Hi Henry - see the notes below on how to best update your section
>>>>using the attached files (and comments you already have).
>>>>
>>>>Julie is flying to Germany tomorrow, so I'll be single-parenting and
>>>>my email will be at night on the weekend. If you have urgent need for
>>>>input, you can call me:
>>>>
>>>>970-728-0780 (home)
>>>>520-907-6480 (cell - only good if I'm in town - best to use home on
>>>>weekends, and cell weekdays)
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again, peck
>>>>
>>>>>X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
>>>>>Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:59:33 +0100
>>>>>To: wg1-ar4-ch06@joss.ucar.edu
>>>>>From: Eystein Jansen <Eystein.Jansen@geo.uib.no>
>>>>>Subject: [Wg1-ar4-ch06] SOD- template and FOD document
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>>>>>Dear friends,
>>>>>In preparation for your rewriting of  the FOD as SOD, we send you
>>>>>the following documents.
>>>>>1. A new template for the FOD which is restructured so that the
>>>>>decisions on structure we made in Christchurch have been taken into
>>>>>account. We also send you the word version of the FOD which is the
>>>>>final version used for the review, in case you do not have this.
>>>>>This is the version for which the comments refer to.
>>>>>In the rewriting we would ask you to rewrite into the SOD template
>>>>>document, thus:
>>>>>1. Find the relevant comment or section to be rewritten in the FOD.
>>>>>2. Then the corresponding section in the SOD document, and rewrrite
>>>>>the text there. References should also be inserted into the SOD
>>>>>document.
>>>>>You have to work in parallel with both documents, but we do not see
>>>>>any way around this in order to arrive at a SOD without too many
>>>>>problems of technical sort.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers, and best luck.
>>>>>Peck and Eystein
>>>>>--
>>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>>Eystein Jansen
>>>>>Professor/Director
>>>>>Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research and
>>>>>Dep. of Earth Science, Univ. of Bergen
>>>>>Allégaten 55
>>>>>N-5007 Bergen
>>>>>NORWAY
>>>>>e-mail: eystein.jansen@geo.uib.no
>>>>>Phone:	+47-55-583491  -  Home: +47-55-910661
>>>>>Fax:	+47-55-584330
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jonathan T. Overpeck
>>>>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>>>>Professor, Department of Geosciences
>>>>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>--
>>Jonathan T. Overpeck
>>Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>>Professor, Department of Geosciences
>>Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences
>>
>>Mail and Fedex Address:
>>
>>Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
>>715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
>>University of Arizona
>>Tucson, AZ 85721
>>direct tel: +1 520 622-9065
>>fax: +1 520 792-8795
>>http://www.geo.arizona.edu/
>>http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
>>
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Professor, Department of Atmospheric Sciences

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